Dialogue Doesn’t Work but Tradition Does
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David Martin | The Daily Knight

On May 8, the first anniversary of Pope Leo’s election, Cardinal Raymond Burke who is the former head of the Vatican high court spoke on the present confusion and disunity in the Catholic Church.
“In a time marked by confusion and division within the Church, the Mystical Body of Christ, let us renew our prayers that the Holy Father persevere in the fulfillment of the Petrine Ministry in the service of the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity of the bishops and all the faithful.”
As a good and tradition-minded prelate, Cardinal Burke certainly realizes that change and ecumenical unity do not produce ecclesial unity but division. In this time of disunity and confusion Jesus Crucified simply needs to be lifted up in center view before the Church as a means of uniting the Church around him, and the way to effectively do this is by universally restoring the Latin Tridentine Mass. Without explicitly saying it Cardinal Burke was hinting that the Old Mass is "the perpetual and visible source and foundation" of our ecclesial unity. Church leaders must inspire the faithful to look to Christ on the Cross so that the Church and world may be drawn to him. Dialoguing and shaking hands doesn't bring about spiritual unity but tradition does. If it wrought the Church’s unity for 2000 years it will certainly work today.
Christ said that "as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert (to heal the poisonous bites of serpents) so must the Son of man be lifted up." (St. John 3:14) Beholding Christ on the cross is what heals us of our spiritual snake bites. Since Vatican II, satan has been biting and poisoning the Church because people have taken their eyes off God and have turned to one another instead. The Novus Ordo Mass has produced a new-found merry-go-round of human encounter whereby the faithful have contracted all manner of heresy, confusion, and promiscuity.
The New Mass Brought About a Shift of Focus
With the New Mass came a historic shift of focus where the emphasis was now on the community and not on God. Everything today is about being in touch with the environment while the things of Heaven are dismissed.
This cause was especially evidenced in “Pope” Francis’ September 2015 recyclical Laudato Si, which was all about bowing to the planet and not to God. Francis obsessed with pagan earth gods like Pachamama and those of Canadian tribalist groups while burying the one true form of worship on earth – the Traditional Latin Mass.
The Old Mass was that Lumen Gentium wherewith to illuminate the Church and raise it to things eternal but by removing it after Vatican II the Church lapsed into spiritual darkness, which in turn deprived the world of spiritual light so that the two began stumbling in the dark together. Spiritual darkness now enshrouds the Church and humanity fulfilling the prophecy of Our Lady at La Sallete, “The Church will be in eclipse, the world will be in dismay.”
The problem today is that the clergy for the most part no longer take the Divine Master at his word but are taken up with their own inventions. At Vatican II, the bishops began drafting up their own ideas and formulas believing falsely that this was the work of the Holy Spirit. However, change is never the work of the Holy Spirit unless it is a change back to tradition.
The Fabulous Fruits of Taking Christ at his Word
The Gospel provides a valuable lesson on how to fix the problem. In the Gospel of St. Luke, we read that the apostles went fishing and labored all night in the dark without taking anything, so Christ told Peter to “launch out into the deep, and let down your nets for a draught.” They took the Master at his word and immediately brought up a huge draught of fishes (Luke 5:4-10).
Bringing it home, the clergy since Vatican II have labored all night in the dark without catching anything but if they would simply take Christ at his word and let down their nets the traditional way the Church would resume its mission of catching souls for Christ. The Church’s mission is not about dialogue and interaction but about converting the world to Christ (Matt. 28:19,20). This can only come about through obedience to his word.
The clergy need to ask themselves: did Christ ever once dialogue with the people? Quite obviously not. Christ instructed and corrected the people and counseled them on how to get to Heaven, so this is exactly what his representatives in the priesthood are called to do. Christ never once shook hands with other religions so neither must his priestly representatives do this. Their duty is to convert other religions to God, not to receive their errors. The Catholic Church has nothing to learn from other religions.
Vatican II was all about shaking hands with other religions and the fruits have been rotten. Can we honestly say that the changes and ecumania of Vatican II produced even one conversion to Christ?




























































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